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[Maebehere]

I never got belted. I kind of think it was almost a rumor now. I remember in high school, only about a decade ago now, that having facial hair for guys was not permitted. All males had to be clean shaven. I heard rumors, as i'm not male obviously, that when determined that a guy had too much facial hair he was reported to the principal and forced to shave with a somewhat rusty razor. Of course, proposterous but all the guys had said this was indeed the penalty.
Prior to that, I was told that there was a paddle board with holes in it to cause a worse sting when it hit flesh.

I never got a wooping at school, but my mom certainly didn't mind. Got the belt to my bottom several times, enough to leave bruises. I still resent her and it never kept me from acting up. I just got smarter about not getting caught when I acted up.

I don't think hitting is the issue. I think there needs to be a lot more passive discipline myself, knowing how physical discipline effected and still effects me as an adult.

I think grounding and time outs work fine. Hell, I think my biggest punishment would be to take my internet, pc, xbox adn tv access away. I can't imagine a youngin' that would much disagree with that.

[keasy]

Very well said Mae 

[Vasco]

I think grounding and time outs work fine. Hell, I think my biggest punishment would be to take my internet, pc, xbox adn tv access away. I can't imagine a youngin' that would much disagree with that.

But only if it is followed through on.  Too many parents today threaten to take privileges away and either fail to do so or only do so for a shorter period than they threatened.  Once the parents credibility is lost then discipline is non existent.   

[Maebehere]

Yes, that's an exceptionally good point V.

[Hallcat]

Vasco, it's all in the follow through, belt or otherwise.   

[Maebehere]

The last couple of posts in this thread have me thinking about my job. I work for a pharmaceutical development company, in the clinical and kinetics lab.
One portion of the study deals with urinalysis.
This doesn't sound terribly complicated, right? Who hasn't had to go pee in a cup in their life.
But my god, the people in these studies act like complete children. Actually, at least children have the excuse to act like children the adults are just pains in my ass.
There is a sign on every single bathroom door, which are all locked, that states very plainly that there are to be no cell phones in the restrooms and no blankets. (Did I mention we pay people to be guinea pigs and stay in house for weeks at a time so they live here, eat here and get to try out strange new drugs for thousands of dollars). I am fairly strict on the rule because I understand the sanity issues involved. You don't need people taking in items that are easily contaminated and then brought back out to wander amungst the population.
There are other techs that don't enforce it, and I would love to know who they are so I can personally kicked them in the shins.
Anyhoo, because not everyone follows the rules I get people trying to walk into the restrooms with "contraband" all the time. And it's like dealing with kids. I know they are told in orientation that they are not supposed to do it, I know there is a big sign on the door in bold print that they have no choice but to see when they face the door and they do it anyway. So when I tell them not to, they throw a tantrum. I mean, come the frick on people. You are getting paid to eat for free, sleep for free, sometimes try out some very fun drugs and you are throwing a tantrum because I told you to leave your blanky on your bed or leave your phone at the desk in front of me.
I realize if every tech that monitored enforced the issue that it would probably be much, much better. But, adults act just like kids when facing authority. They try out and see what they can get away with. Complain and lie if they get caught. And bitch about it either way.
Anyhoo. Just reminded me of the selfish little children i am forced to take care of.

[Wooster]

Don't know about the blanket, but I'm willing to bet that the phone is due to be used as some sort of wanking aid..

There are, all keyed up and ready to flick one off the wrist to a picture of the G/F or some chick off the intorweb and you come along and spoil their fun..

[Maebehere]

Don't know about the blanket, but I'm willing to bet that the phone is due to be used as some sort of wanking aid..

There are, all keyed up and ready to flick one off the wrist to a picture of the G/F or some chick off the intorweb and you come along and spoil their fun..

Eh, maybe. Except they are usually already talking on them in conversations and seem to just be upset because they don't want to end them. However, I have confiscated vibrators before. LOL, there isn't supposed to be any "strenous" activities during the treatments. Which, yes, that stinks in my opinion. But there isn't to be sex, exercise, some people are confined to the bed most of the time. But come on, is it really that hard not to wack off for two weeksif you know you're going to be earning $4000.00?

[Wooster]

I am joking btw..

Btw, isn't the person taking the phone into the toilet just as likely to become contaminated as the phone itself?
(Maybe even more so by a big contaminated circle around their arse where they sat down to break off a bit of dirty spine?)

[corroded]

tell you what, you'd have to pay me more then $4000 (aud? usd?) to stop me having a five knuckle shuffle for two weeks.

[Wooster]

You'd probably asplode if you tried to stop..

[Maebehere]

Yeah, well there are individual showers. Geez, wait for the showers. I don't understand the need to have to go to the bathrooms where everyone in the world have to expel their urine and gases, etc. And yes, I am sure people do that in the showers to, expel things. But the idea is that it happens less and at least it gets washed down a drain.
I understand myself that people are contaminated. The hope is that if a person practices good hygeine though is that they wash their hands well before and after they have bathroom use, then that would mean a smaller surface of germ interface. Of course, lets be realistic, this is highly unlikely. But it doesn't mean I should slack on my job or I should have to put up with their nonsense bitching at me. I am not asking them to do something that is going to hurt them, or even anything terribly inconvenient. They all know the rules, they just want to be confrontational and I won't put up with it. That's all.

[Wooster]

I wouldn't put up with it myself..

In fact I'd be tempted to tell them that they have a few options.
Either leave the phone, or have it bagged, tagged and put into storage for the duration of the trial. Or if they continue to keep shooting their mouth of it'll be classed as contaminated and go into the incinerator. 

[corroded]

You'd probably asplode if you tried to stop..

I'd asplode if i didn't stop too..





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