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« on: October 23, 2008, 10:47:20 PM » |
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This is the new proposals in The U.K. I'm sick of this crap. I've already told my kid that babies come from mummies tummy and to be frank that's all he wanted to know. The schools should be concerned with the alphabet, numbers, basic art and fun at that age, not sex ed. It's been said it will help them understand the 'emotional' side WTF  Let my kids be kids ffs, the only emotion concerning girls I want my sons bothering about is that they like Barbie and that makes them rubbish. Fuck off liberal politicians and social coherence think tanks, let my kid be a kid and bog off out what is my wife and I's domain.
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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2008, 10:55:36 PM » |
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PMSL ' Jimmy Johnstone' 
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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2008, 11:48:48 PM » |
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« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2008, 09:00:14 AM » |
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 The sex ed part starts from 7 and its about animal reproduction, so by 8 or 9 years old, kids might have a good idea what those dogs are doing in the street, or what the pigs are doing down on the farm.  (Reminds me of the old Indian joke: "Why do you ask, Two Dogs Fucking?"  )
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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2008, 09:04:26 AM » |
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 The sex ed part starts from 7 and its about animal reproduction, so by 8 or 9 years old, kids might have a good idea what those dogs are doing in the street, or what the pigs are doing down on the farm.  (Reminds me of the old Indian joke: "Why do you ask, Two Dogs Fucking?"  ) They are starting it compulsory from five and they are telling them where they come from. Something I am able to do myself.
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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2008, 09:09:42 AM » |
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not cause you do the parent stuff others will
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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2008, 09:27:32 AM » |
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They are starting it compulsory from five and they are telling them where they come from.
No they aren't. The actual 'sex education' part comes later on. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/education/article5001231.eceIt's the type of thing the tabloids would jump on, despite the Education Minister making it perfectly clear. (It also only applies to England and Wales, so your kids won't be part of the proposal.)
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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2008, 10:57:40 AM » |
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Tabloids, broadsheets, doesn't matter. On Questiontime the labour minister was backed into a corner when asked to clearly define what would be acceptable and what would be, he couldn't answer straight. Regardless of any reportage in any paper no matter how respectable it's still not guaranteed what is and what is not to come in to it. Besides how the times puts it. It's still to much to young. Feckin leave em alone and stop imposing complex issues upon them, as if 'feelings' are the easy part, adults can't work that out, the actual sex is the easy part. It's all going to far.
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« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2008, 11:03:06 AM » |
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Animal reproduction from 7 yrs old and up.
What a crock a shite.
They don't need to know that at that age, it's still too young.
Sexual disease is down to societies current me and fuck everyone else attitudes, sex ed won't cure it. Encouragement of the family unit, old family values and tougher feckin jail sentences. That's the solution.
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Rick Briton.
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« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2008, 11:43:39 PM » |
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Don't they send home a permission slip? Here, if you don't want your children to participate in sex ed, all you have to do is say so and they go off the library. The schools here start sex-ed in 3 grade 8-9 year olds. Its more about body development and the changes that they are about to go through. They also separate the girls from the boys. They have a parent night before hand so that if you are concerned about what will be taught to your children you can view it yourself first. I'd have an objection to 5 year olds learning the stuff about emotions because they've just barely figured out how to play together on the play ground. Its too much to burden them with feelings and relationships. I agree with you Keasy, I believe it should start in the home. I've never objected to the public school's program here, only because I know that what they're being told there has already been covered at home. I started talking to my kids when they were very young, at a level they could understand. Basically, what you said. Where do babies come from - their mommies tummies. If they asked more I gave them more, if they didn't ask further, I didn't add. Sometimes kids get too much information shoved down their throats. I'd say check with the school and see if you view the subject matter and if you don't like it see if you can opt out.
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« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2008, 08:46:55 AM » |
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I think it is currently optional HC but they are proposing it to be compulsory. Britain is a dictatorship these days.
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« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2008, 08:58:32 AM » |
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England & Wales isn't Britain..  Scotland is unaffected by the proposals. 
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« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2008, 12:34:10 PM » |
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Keasy your argument is sound the only problem is that your saying it as a good parent....... A lot of parents round here wouldn't leave the pub for half an hour to be arsed to teach there kids anything......... 
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« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2008, 08:16:03 AM » |
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Keasy you pretty much sound like a typical parent,the problem being that no matter how innocent we wish our kids were they dont stay that way for long in this day and age,when you get kids as young as 9 going through puberty what do you do? I agree that 5 is too young for sex education and lets face it at 5 they arent going to understand a lot of what they are told,but if they havent been taught it by the age of 9 then we as parents really should have explained it to them. The sad fact is that teenage pregnancy is on the rise and even after years of condom adverts and aids,our nations teens are still getting pregnant. So yes 5 is too young,but what age isnt?
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