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« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2009, 08:37:34 PM »


What I am saying is that it is all up to perspective and that those of us in the West need to also look at what our governments get up to. 

I deplore what Iran is doing and I also deplore some of the things we in the west get up to which are equally as bad.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,644183,00.html



Agreed.  But that's very different from saying that Iran is merely copying things the US have done.  I know the US is everyone's favorite kicking post but we don't deserve it as often as we receive it (previous administration excepted as those monkeys were out there).  Iran has been a country of reactionary oppression for a very, very long time and need no pointers from anyone on how to screw over random people who end up in the wrong place at the right time.
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« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2009, 09:42:34 PM »

I don't think Vasco ever implied that the Iran were copying the USA, in fact the reverse is probably more accurate.
It looked to me that he was pointing out the fallacy in carrying out that kind of policy (bad news/press travels faster than good).


US foreign policy is probably best described as a road that was meant to be paved with best intentions, but it didn't quite pan out that way (which is pretty much par for the course when it comes to empire building).
We'll let you off though, you're new at this kind of thing. tongue2
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« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2009, 09:52:41 PM »

I guess what I am saying is I find it difficult to condemn Iran for copying the bad example set for them by the west. 

This is what I said and I did not point the finger driectly at the USA.  Games like this have been around for a long time.

 
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« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2009, 07:11:35 PM »

Well, cheers then.  My mistake.
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« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2009, 10:00:32 PM »

Nothing for me?

I tried really hard to sound like a patronising fud in that last post too.

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« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2009, 10:57:37 PM »

Well let that be a lesson, don't try to be what you are. When you don't try to be what you are what you are and that's what you are when you are what you know you are, then what do you expect to be, what you are ?
What am I f*cking talking about ?

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« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2009, 11:02:29 PM »

Sounds like you're Edie Brickelled. smile
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« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2009, 11:03:58 PM »

What I am is what I am and what I am you are ?

I am ?  ohmy

Feck me, I appear to be am  flee
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« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2009, 11:26:11 PM »

I  am what I am  smile
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« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2009, 11:44:11 PM »

And I is what is what I R and I R what is this, I R what I is.

But what I is, is not what this is if this is being from NZ
 

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« Reply #25 on: December 12, 2009, 11:45:54 PM »

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« Reply #26 on: December 13, 2009, 05:19:13 AM »

I yam what I yam ~ Popeye   laugh
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