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« on: December 01, 2009, 10:30:04 PM »

Ever been for a job interview lately ?

Even for the most humble of low paid jobs ?

Yer expected to give some mega professional presentation of yourself, to lie and sell yourself beyond what is real..


What happened to the days when your interview was merely to put a face to the applicants name and make a judgement on how honest the face was ?


It all stems from the 80's imo, when Thatcher and her crew of YUPPY focused make believes wrote off the every day man, we all had to be some sort of feckin ultra professional invloved in the sales region of selling ones self just to land a low paid job.


Thatcher...you cow, I hated you then and I hate you still.



Well that was an attempt to get it off my chest, it didn't work, it's still there   Angry

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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2009, 12:11:29 AM »

I don't know about the UK but here in NZ it is because our employment laws are so tight that it is virtually impossible to sack someone.  The process can take over a year and always costs the company money.  So employers are very careful about who they hire and want to know everything because if they hire the wrong person or a no hoper they are stuck with them.

Thus employment interviews become a sales job by the applicant.  They have to convince the employe that they are worth the risk and not only that but they are worth the wage that is on offer.


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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2009, 12:22:42 AM »

Makes sense, but I'm talking board-meeting styled interviews for national minimum wage jobs.... don;t think it';s just down to making the safest bet, I reckon it has became a cultural norm to interview on a business type trip.

Previous employment track and referee's can almost instantly separate the chaff from the wheat as an personal reference is secondary to two previous employers references, where by the employers references merely state reliability , sick time etc.  Even the unemployed can be checked upon to see if they signed on for social entitlement at the allocated time. It does go a long way to differentiate between the scum that just don;t want to work or even conform and those of us that are obviously okay. Without having to be a feckin business graduate just to do a decent honest days work.

It goes a long way to cut out the disease tbh.

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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2009, 08:23:07 PM »

The same general thing has been happening here since about the 80's as well at least in resumes.  Some of the fluff and outright fabrications is a standard for applications.  Sent out for the meetings donuts on a regular basis?  You were in charge of material procurement for company functions.  Relegated to a one man position of no real use to the company?  Head of an independent division.  Were you downsized and had to take a job at a McDonalds?  Shifted focus to spearhead work in customer relations.
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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2009, 10:45:07 PM »

Haven;t come across that here yet but no doubt its comming.....   Sad
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« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2009, 01:36:12 AM »

You can tell.

Your personnel department suddenly becomes 'Human Resources' and no-one in the company understands exactly wtf they actually do.
It isn't long after that they start fad-surfing and sending out buzzword-compliant memos. (Well they have to justify drawing a wage somehow, don't they?) smile
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« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2009, 01:58:27 AM »

I'm confused, i always blamed America for this syndrome.
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« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2009, 03:17:51 AM »

Human Resources is a bad word here we use "People capital"  ahhhhhhhhh  spew
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« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2009, 03:18:29 AM »

I'm confused, i always blamed America for this syndrome.

Well, we are the favorite source for most of the worlds ills.   happy
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« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2009, 12:19:51 PM »

Yet another fall in the recruitment process.

12 years experience, IMO a well written application,every feckin buzz word and terminology,  brilliant references.

Fuck all interview.

I'm fecked off with the whole job situation.

Really fecked.
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« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2009, 09:53:07 PM »

I'm confused, i always blamed America for this syndrome.

Well, we are the favorite source for most of the worlds ills.   happy

We've moved on since Obama made office, there's bigger fish to fry.  confused

(btw, bringing the EPA in to circumvent The Senate was a fucking masterstroke.. Cool Cool)
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