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[Ctulu]

Good choice?  Offer valid tommorow evening ... I need to be quick to decide :s

seems like a good offer - 100 euro reduction

Dell Studio XPS 8100
Studio XPS 8100 - Intel Core i3 Processor 530 (2,93 GHz, 4 MB)
Legitieme Windows® 7 Home Premium 64 Bit - Nederlands
1GB ATI® Radeon™ HD 5450 graphics card
4.096 MB 1.333 MHz Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM [4 x 1.024]
1 TB SATA-harde schijf (7.200 rpm)
16x optisch dvd+/-rw-station (dvd/cd lezen en schrijven, alleen Win 7)
1 year of coverage included with your PC

Prijs  € 780
 
Reduction  € 100
 
Totaal  € 680
 
 
incl. BTW en Recupel en. Transport
Uw computer gefinancierd in 12 maanden vanaf € 60/maand .
Looptijd volgens uw budget
Meer informatie over financieringen
 
 

[keasy]

Not the greatest rig in the world for the money mate.

For that amount you could build a powerful gaming rig.

It ain't hard in the slightest.

[Ctulu]

ok, cheers for the info mate 

[Wooster]

For about 500 Euros you could get an i5-750, a good ASUS mobo for it and an Ati 5770.

Keep your existing case, hard drives, optical drive and PSU (depending on it's rating) and you have yourself a major upgrade for less cash.

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/194707
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/172755
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/190025

Oh and you'll need memory for it.
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173122

That lot comes to 569 Euros.

If you need a psu then
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/202776
And a case
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143854

Adds another 120 Euros taking you to 689 (which is only a tenner above what you were going to pay anyway).


That took me about 15 minutes to put together and price up, so you might get it cheaper if you shop around.

...oh, and it'll wipe the floor with that Dell.

[keasy]

That blows it right out the water.

Tut, I know you're more into buying a pre-build but seriously mate, a guy of your calibre will find it not problematic at all to self build.

Heck we're here to help and you know we can point you in directions for erm...OS stuff etc should you need pointed

Just think of the difference in performance for the same money mate, it's night and day difference, your gaming would be so much better too with the increased FPS.

[Wooster]

It's pretty much the same mobo, memory and CPU setup I have at the moment, you really can't go wrong with it.

Take the BIOS for instance..all you need to do is change one setting to get the memory running at 1600MHz and that's it.

[Thermalsig]

WTH, Ctulu? That system is way overpriced. My brother works for Dell and while they are a decent company, they sale you vanilla sh*t for the cards and mobos. For instance, the 5450 in that will be a strictly generic reference card. You won't even be able to differentiate it from any other card. A green PCB with a vanilla ass cooler on it. No component of any Dell pre-built is OCable, unless you go for one of their high end gaming systems. Anything else has strict BIOS limitations and you can't do much with them. You are one of the more pc savy guys I know. Why in the hell wouldn't you build your own?  The system Woosty quoted for you is decent, although you can save a little/lot cash and go with an AMD phenom 2 965 and a better mobo for a lot less. You due the conversions. 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103692&cm_re=phenom_965-_-19-103-692-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131633 <-Killer mobo with USB/SATA 3 and an IGP that will crossfires with the 5830 for better performance.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145265&Tpk=CMD4GX3M2A1600C8%28
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102878&cm_re=5830-_-14-102-878-_-Product
Comes to less than 540 Euros with a much better video card, and yes I did the correct conversions. Figure a good PSU and case being the similar~ price and you have a system that will live on for years.

[Ctulu]

The biggest problem concerning pricing in Belgium is the heavy tax rate :-(
We pay 21% taxes in Belgium ...

	Totaal excl. BTW	btw-tarief	Totaal incl. BTW
Base cost	€ 537,20	21,00%	€ 650,01
Recupel	€ 0,41	21,00%	€ 0,50
Delivery	€ 23,97	21,00%	€ 29,00
Total Cost	€ 561,58	21,00%	€ 679,51

So conversions are sweet but taxes are not :'(  By that standard I tought the deal was sweet!  But I'm shure gonna check the products you guy's advised for their prices overhere!

[Wooster]

Our tax is already 17.5%, so you only need to add 25 Euro to my total to balance it up with a 21% tax rate.

[Ctulu]

The problem is the hassle of assembling it.  Scared of doing something wrong and mess up the expensive material :s  With Dell it's assembled and has a nice garanty :-/  Online shops like that buying each individual item how does garanty work?

Btw Wooster I like the config you propose but I would need a hard disc too :s

For the Dell I can pick an Intel Core I5 for an added € 99.  Brings the total to € 779.50 ...


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EDIT: You know what, feckit, you guy's are right.  I can make better deals ordering it seperatly and assembling it myself ... Time to learn! 

[Ctulu]

What do you guy's think about this Bundle?

http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/Moederborden_Socket_1156/ALTERNATE/MSI_Bundel_P55-GD65_+_i5_750/-1080967/?tn=HARDWARE&l1=Upgrade+kits

[keasy]

MSI motherboard - hmmm, dunno mate.
They used to have a poor rep but have came up in the world since then AFAIK. A rule of thumb for me  is to buy either ASUS or Gigabyte mobo's.
Even then it's worth checking reviews out but they normally come with good functionality.


A thing to remember is that as your new to self build I doubt you will be venturing into the world of overclocking, so yoiu could save a few quid by buying a quality brand mobo with less features for oc. Overclock ability is often the deciding factor in price of a mobo, the more overclockable, the better the components the higher the price. If you plan to run at at stock speeds then you can cut all that out and go cheaper, as long as it's still a stable board.

But you now what Tut ?
It's your first self build so all the advice in the world is going to just confuse you further.
See a bundle or individual components and go for it as long as it's not a dire dire manufacturer.
Your next build you will be more geared up for decisions and will factor more for overclock etc. As is, just go for it mate  
Remeber don;t go cheap on the PSU though, no no no no!

[Ctulu]

For about 500 Euros you could get an i5-750, a good ASUS mobo for it and an Ati 5770.

Keep your existing case, hard drives, optical drive and PSU (depending on it's rating) and you have yourself a major upgrade for less cash.

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/194707
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/172755
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/190025

Oh and you'll need memory for it.
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173122

That lot comes to 569 Euros.

I put that config up with  www.tones.be and it comes to €621  here in Belgium, about 50 euro's more expensive but still managable me thinks. The Thermaltake PSU I cant find there though.

With another PSU it comes to € 731.50

[Thermalsig]

I see we are stuck on Intel.  The perils you fanboys face!
What about the OS, Ctulu? If the one you have is for a prebuilt system, you may not be able to use it on your next build. A lot of the pc manufacturers did not give out stand alone OS disks, they just gave out disks that you can only use to reformat the hard drive to the original state of the pc. You should check to make sure you have a full OS on the disk for your other pc. Going for Win 7 would be ideal though. That would give you DX11 to take advantage of that 5770. You can save dosh by looking for combo deals like you did and looking for free shipping(if you can), you'd be surprised how fast the savings add up that way.

[Ctulu]

OS I would get legaly