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[AbaddonsFury]

Ok,all you computer experts, as stated in previous thread in another section of WAnK, my pc died, now i need to build another tower.
Here is the url of the place where I'll be buying the parts and prices.
http://www.msy.com.au/Parts/PARTS.pdf

I already have a near new series 900 Antec case, with 4 fans in it.
Its been recomended to me that i should get the i7 mobo and i7 cpu.
Now while I'm not overly fussed on price I do want to keep it real.
Please keep in mind it all has to be compatable with each other part, so If you dont know then dont advise, thanx.
What I would like is some serious advice (after looking at the list) on what I should buy.


Case (already have)= Antec 900 series

Mobo=

CPU=

RAM=

Hard drive=

RAM=

Graphics card=

dvd/cd/blueray? burner=

O/S=(must be full version)

Now along the way, I'll probably be asking questions that may seem silly to you but, they're not to me as I dont know.

Q..  do i need to buy a sound card also, or is this part of the mobo or something else. (i already have Sound blaster 5.1 speakers and software) in old pc which i will hook up when complete.

Q.. i noticed in the tower the back of it where all the little plugs go in, is bare, do all the little plug in parts come with the mobo.

Your help will be greatly appreciated..

Regards AF

[Roscop]

I also own a antec 900 great case, I personally am a bit of an AMD fan so I may be a bit biased but i would recommend

Gigabyte GA-MA785GMT-UD2H  - 97
AMD Phenom II X4 955             -188
2GB ddr3 1333 Kingston x2       - 118 (cheaper than the 4GB kit which will be 2 x 2GB sticks anyway according to the price list )
samsung 1Tb                         - 89 (this is a personal choice depending on your  storage requirements but try and get a samsung f3 drive IMHO)
HIS HD 5770 1GB                    -183
OS- again down to personal choice but for talking sake call it windows 7 home 64bit  -  108

a couple of thing you might have or forgot or have already

PSU - coolermaster extreme power 600 - 90
DVD drive - lite on  - 30

optional extras

fan controller
card reader
tuner card

I am sure that you will have a pretty solid machine with that it has been a while since I have built a machine so I ain't up to date on what is best but in my opinion i would be happy with that build.

These parts are only a recommendation of a drunk man and I take no responsibility for the abuse or damnation that may come my way.

In answer to your questions

1- I imagine the motherboard i suggested will take the 5.1 system you have

2. the plugs and bits come attached to the motherboard with a cover plate that fit on the back of your case

[Wooster]

I've already set out my stall in Ctulu's thread..the big question is what the budget is.

The kit I priced up in Ctulu's thread (roughly adjusted to drop the kit you don't need and add the stuff you do) comes to just over $1000 Australian.

Btw..There's been some great reviews for the 500GB Western Digital Caviar Blue hard drives and a pair of those (OEM) is cheaper than the 1TB Samsung.

[AbaddonsFury]

ok....IS THIS OVERKILL

this is what i've come up with..
case(already have)= antec 900 series

mobo= GB EX58-UD5 ($295)

CPU= i7-930 ($339)

RAM= 6G kit DDR3 2000 g skill-trident ($225)

Hard drive= WD sata 1TB ($95)

Graphics card= 1GB 5850 Powercolor Gigabyte ($349)

Op system= windows 7 home premium full= ($299)

cd/dvd burner= (about $80) not sure what sort i'll get, i actually have a good LG dvd/cd burner in old pc i might take out and put in new rig.

As for speakers i already have good sound blaster 5.1, i can use.
and if i read it right then i can use the on board sound card that comes with mother board.

Any feed back would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

[Wooster]

Nice..

One thing I would do though is look closely at the RAM compatibility list for the Motherboard, most of the problems I've seen on these platforms is down to unsupported memory.

I had a look at one list and there are only two DDR2 2000 kits the manufacturer supports...and both are only 3x1GB kits.

CR20B1 1GB Crucial BL12864BE2009.8SFB3SS v3PCS
TA20B1 1GB Team TXD32048M2000HC9SS v3PCS

I got that from here http://ee.giga-byte.com/products/mb/specs/ga-ex58-ud5_10.html (Memory List Link on right) since the Gigabyte site isn't loading..so it might have been updated.

[Glamdring]

Mobo - Asus P7P55D-E Pro, Socket 1156
CPU - i5 750
RAM - 4G Kit DDR3 1600 G.Skill-ECO
GFX - Powercolor 5870
HDD - One WD 1TB unit + one Samsung 1TB unit. Buying two brands minimises the risk of buying two from a bad batch.


I went for the i5 rather than the i7 because there's no advantage in i7 for the normal user.

That list is horrible. It's hugely limited, confusing and presented as per a 1980s hobbyist magazine. Are there no better Aussie sites?

[Thermalsig]

I would go the I5-750 myself. It's very easy to OC and match the speed of the I7 for a whole lot less money. Less mobo cost, less memory cost. I've read many articles where people are getting 3.8/4Ghx with very little voltage bumping and very little increase in heat. That means a good air cooler for your cpu will get you every bit of power you'll need. The money you save can put you into a 5870, which is money much better spent IMO.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i5-750-overclock,2438.html  <--Good article on the I5 750
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i5-750-overclock,2438-12.html  <-- Quick results with out reading the whole article.

[Splinter]

Therm, I thought you were an AMD fan 

[Wooster]

He has seeeen the light, Brother.


...it's close between the two at the moment though..

[Thermalsig]

Therm, I thought you were an AMD fan 

I am, but mainly on the undeniable price/performance ratio benefit. If you have to have the fastest cpu out there, go for the Intel. If you're like me and have to weigh cost against performance, then get the AMD. Most will never tell the difference. I own a Q6600, which is still a potent cpu, but if my pc blew up, AMD would be my choice. At the time I purchased the Intel, AMD had nothing even remotely close to it. The sad thing is the platform is a dead end as far as future upgrades other than slapping a faster gpu on it. AMD really tries hard to make their platforms upgradeable for more than 2 years. Intel has 4 socket platforms right now with only "one" socket with an upgrade path, that would be the 1366. The new hexa core I7 980 will fit it. If you have a $1000USD to spend. AMD has Thuban which hits in a month. It will fit most AM2/AM2+/AM3 sockets with a BIOS upgrade, for only $300USD. Let me see, for all the Intel fanboys here *cough* Wooster/Keasy *cough*, I can build a very nice 6 core system by AMD for less than the price of one Intel 6 core. Oh yeah, and I can slap one on my daughter's year old mobo for a killer upgrade. Hmmm, let me think on that. Splint, this whole rant was aimed at those *cough* that won't see anything other than Intel on their box, even if it makes no sense for the money that they have to spend.

[Splinter]

When i bought the GA mobo for my customer, I checked out the Giga website for CPU compatibility issues and read '6 core compatible'. I thought it was a misprint.
Tbh, much of the time AMD has been regarded by many as the 'underdog', but things have changed. I've always backed underdogs and it's good to see the only other serious player in the market giving arrogant Intel a run for their money.
Added to which, acquiring ATI has given them a very tangible benefit in the market. Shrewd move.

[Wooster]

I remember Intel were the underdog not so long ago, the AMD CPU's had a good run when the Athlons were released.

[Thermalsig]

I remember Intel were the underdog not so long ago, the AMD CPU's had a good run when the Athlons were released.

That was before got smart and moved their memory controller on die. That was the very first move they made that put them back in the game. It's all a big wheel, what comes around, blah, blah! AMD will have their day in the sun again as top dog. AMD did pull a game changer thought with the very first price/performance ratio. I think that now everything is in flux and their is a whole new world to producing cpus. It's no longer a simple proc on a chip. Half the systems controllers have been moved on die along with the gpu. SOC. I think the very first true fully on die soc will be AMD's bulldozer chip. I don't think we can think of the world of cpus as simply as we used to. I think that right now as always that competition is a good thing that spurs innovation. What we really need with all these extra cores laying around is for the software vendors to write their code ground up to take advantage of them. As of now, anything over 2 cores is severely under utilized and most software that tries to take advantages of more cores is poorly written at best. There in lies the rub, we have the horsepower to do more, but not the chassis(code) to do it with.

[AbaddonsFury]

Have a look at this site, they're on the way home from work for me....
http://www.zipcomputers.com.au/store/

check the intel tower specials, there are 2 cpu options, the i5 and i7, what do you think.

[Glamdring]

Go for the i5 750; I think that i7 isn't what it's cracked up to be.