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gi joe
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« on: November 11, 2010, 04:51:05 PM »

FFS

http://www.38degrees.org.uk/page/s/save-our-forests#petition

Are they just gonna sell every fucking thing off?
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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2010, 05:30:42 PM »

I wonder how many people are starting to think like Guy Fawkes given the past week's announcements... dry
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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2010, 06:29:49 PM »

63,000 already.. blink


I reckon this coalition doesn't have long left in it.
I can see another election in May or shortly after.
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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2010, 07:53:34 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2010, 09:15:27 PM »

63,000 already.. blink


I reckon this coalition doesn't have long left in it.
I can see another election in May or shortly after.

I was thinking that.  That everyone's gonna kick off soon so they'll be forced to hold an election.  But didn't everyone kick off with Brown and he refused?  Lib Dems are finished.  I voted for them, not again.  They've lied or backed down from everything they said.  It's like they are just glad they are in government and just want to pretend they are in total control, so just take everything the conservs say and end up agreeing with it.
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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2010, 12:52:46 AM »

Not finding a statement of the exact area that they plan to sell off, I'm unsure if they really are referring to National Parks or just woodlands owned by the govt? Here, are govt owns vast tracts of both. Only the national parks are protected at an extremely high level. The last administration was all for letting private business lease the land to go drill for oil in some of the most incredible diverse and unprotected tundra up in Alaska. Essentially it would of boiled down to the same thing as selling it to business, except for the snow blind political bastards said the wildlife or geography would never be harmed if we just leased it to them. Let us stab oil wells everywhere and lay pipe through some of the most sensitive ecological systems and we promise not a single animal will ever know we were there. BS. Same thing about drilling off the coast. We know only to well how business cares about the environment now, don't we? I hope you pull this off well and are heard loudly, because frankly I wouldn't trust govt to do anything right.
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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2010, 02:12:21 AM »

I think this is petition applies to English forests only.
In Scotland we've had a legacy of (previously) tax exempt plantations of non indigenous forestry that the Scottish government have been reducing, in favour of indigenous trees.
At the moment the felling is a scar across the landscape in many areas, but in 40 or 50 years the picture should be very much different once the Scots Pine and other plants have re-established themselves. Cool

One of the memories that will live with me forever is following a slightly outdated Ordnance Survey map through a forest of Douglas Fir.
To get where I needed to go I had to cut through a couple of Km of ancient (real) forest in a depression settling on a lochan.
..so on a pale winter morning, with shafts of light cutting the ancient trees, I walked/stumbled into a herd of Red Deer drinking from the water of the lochan.
..honestly, it was feckin Awesome  Cool

I stopped dead in my tracks (stunned), the Doe's hardly batted an eyelid (the odd squint in my direction), but the Stag just stood there, above the rest, and sizing me up.
Took a few minutes, but he barked out and they all legged it through the Bluebells.

Honestly, it was...awesome. smile




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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2010, 02:56:25 AM »

I still would like to know which tracts of land they're worried about. scratchhead The petition doesn't name any specifics. It must be on the news over there and you guys know from that? I'm not tree hugger to stop all forward progress and I do believe that there are valid reasons for some release of public land. Few and far, but they exist. In all honesty, we have some groups over here that scream if a turtle gets stepped on. So you find in some instances that a group will be listened to, but understood as noisemakers(not necessarily getting anywhere). I'm just curious where this one falls in its urgency factor.  Wink
Wooster, awesome story bro. I've had some pretty emotionally intense sightings while camping and hunting myself. They stay with you for life. happy
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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2010, 05:26:07 PM »

I still would like to know which tracts of land they're worried about. scratchhead The petition doesn't name any specifics. It must be on the news over there and you guys know from that? I'm not tree hugger to stop all forward progress and I do believe that there are valid reasons for some release of public land. Few and far, but they exist. In all honesty, we have some groups over here that scream if a turtle gets stepped on. So you find in some instances that a group will be listened to, but understood as noisemakers(not necessarily getting anywhere). I'm just curious where this one falls in its urgency factor.  Wink
Wooster, awesome story bro. I've had some pretty emotionally intense sightings while camping and hunting myself. They stay with you for life. happy

But you've got to remember, we're a tiny island compared to the US.  You have massive amounts of land.  It's why on Penn and Tellers Bullshit episode about recycling, they said something about it being fine to have big areas for waste, something like 30miles wide.  But that's because America is so massive.  That would be a big area in the UK so wouldn't be good.
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« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2011, 12:52:47 PM »



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