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« on: February 23, 2011, 11:45:41 PM »

Cannot remember how I O/C my E6600 and besides this new chip and MB confuses me anyway.

What do I change here to up my CPU please?
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« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2011, 11:53:04 PM »

I wouldn't bother for the time being mate!

Out of interest, just double check by 100%ing the CPU and running CPU-Z you are getting the right clocks, and ram speeds etc =] I notice your ram is detected as 1066 (even though it's 1600...). Could be Speedstep playing with things, but nice to be sure you're getting the full juice.
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« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2011, 12:01:45 AM »

Hmmm, this doesnt seem correct?
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« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2011, 12:45:08 AM »

Soz mate, Steam just shat itself and keeps saying no connection? You reset the ratios?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Bridge#LGA_1155

Looks like you want to be getting 3.3ghz as your default, and 3.7ghz if you have enabled Turbo mode (temporary in built overclocking). Does look like the RAM is defaulted to 1066, so its running a wee bit on the slower side, but you should be a BIOS change away from that now.

You shouldn't need to change ratios, the bus speed of the ram is a wee bit out. Let me know if you have any problems.
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« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2011, 10:15:46 AM »

Yep - all reset back to the levels on my previous post (1 above).

Looked into the BIOS and cannot find where to alter the RAM other than by changing the Ratio (to x5 iirc).

Another slight issue that I have now noticed;
Periodically I get the NTLDR is missing message and the PC will not boot.
I believe that this is due to my HDD locations. I (as you all know) installed a new HDD and installed Win7 on that. I then added my old SATA HDD.
In disk manager, my old Win7 HDD is down as disk0 with the new Win7 install being C: but disk1.
During boot I get a message saying HDD not found but it always boots without issues - unless I get the NTLDR message.

To get past the NTLDR message I pop in the Win7 DVD and it booted (twice now) from the HDD without any errors.

Jumpers on my old HDD?Huh? Before I look at that I want to know if that could be the reason. That side of the case is an arse to put back on because of the cables etc.
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« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2011, 10:32:50 AM »

It's probably fixing a MBR on disk 0, and looking for an old install that is now knackered. To be honest, I don't remember setting any jumpers on my drives in years now... I just plug the boot drive into the lowest available port. It's probably going to be a right pain to switch it to the first sata... might work, depends how the MBR is set up. If they are both Disk 0, Partition 0, you might stand a chance that just swapping might work, but otherwise you might need to do fixmbr funtime, at which point, I'd suggest just reinstalling after you move it to the first port.
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« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2011, 10:49:31 AM »

The old Win7 HDD has been formatted (disk0)
What a royal pain in the arse!
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« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2011, 11:10:14 AM »

Yeah, but the MBR is probably still on there for it... the Win Install disks tend to pick a valid 7 partition to boot to (since part of the install process is before it's installed, but files copied to the HDD)

You can get to the MBR instead 7 I believe. If it's on Drive 1 Parition 0, I think you might be able to change it there as it won't be read until a reboot to Drive 0, Partition 0. Then move it to the primary port, and make sure it's Drive 0. Then it will be happy.

Backup any important datas first. I've never done it, I've just noticed some boot location stuff in Windows before (think its the MBR). Worst case, you're in for a reinstall, irrespective. You might also be able to take it out, move it, and then boot into the recovery mode, and /fixmbr the disk to unconfuzzle it.

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« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2011, 02:54:15 PM »

Back to OC.

This looks good for the CPU but I still can't find anything to help with my underperforming RAM?
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/01/03/msi_p67agd65_lga1155_chipset_motherboard_review/6
Just an increase to VCore Voltage to 1.25 OR 1.4 should be stable giving me 4.3 or 4.7GHz.

EDIT: I also see a difference in the CPU Ratio from mine (see 1st post) and his?
EDIT2: AND AN UPDATED BIOS Version!! Maybe this explains the RAM issue??

In fact, comparing the 2 my CPU is way under what it should be at clock core speed 1600mhz (should this not be 3300mhz without any overclock?)
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« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2011, 03:16:25 PM »

They've got K series processors there, the unlocked Multipler. So they've got some luxuries you don't... I personally wouldn't fuck around with the vCore... I know the old Nehalems were recommended to run at a specific voltage, and could be damaged by changing them. I don't know if this is changed on Sandy. I'd personally recommend against raising your vCore by large amounts... or at all if you can help it.

You've got speedstep enabled, that's why it's running low... its 3.3ghz, unless turbo is enabled, then it's 3.7, but for power saving, it will run at less when needed. Most of the time mine runs at 1.2ghz. I'm not sure your Turbo is enabled... I think the CPU speed is fine, it's just the memory that's off (they aren't as linked as they were... though, I think Sandy might be a bit more linked than Nehalem again... no QPI).

I think it's just your RAM speed off... there is a BIOS setting somewhere that is set to 533, or 133... if it's 533, it should be 667, it could also be 1066, in which case, it should be 1333. Either in your overclocking section, or memory section. You certainly should do anyway.

The old adage with overclocking is, if you aren't sure don't do it. If they suspect its an overclocking failure they might not honour a warranty.
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« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2011, 06:16:47 PM »

Hit the Genie button with these results:



The RAM according to CPU-Z is 798Mhz now - correct?
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« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2011, 06:23:05 PM »

You have the same CPU as me Tom, it's locked. Trying to overclock it will result in poor gain and is a waste of time. You're just going to be over clocking your whole MB/system to the point of futility as it will destabilise everything.

You do as Chris says need it set to 3.3 with 3.7 in turbo mode.


As for your your two MBR conflict type issue...

Try installing Vista boot pro  and selecting the one you wish to use. Or you're just not at grips with your new systems boot options I'd bet Wink

http://www.vistabootpro.org/

Getting your RAM to run in 1600 will require you to OC your RAM within the appropriate area. Manufacturers sell their RAM at base speeds with them having a rating of 1600 and up as an OC with no guarantee of running at those speeds unless on your MOBO manufacturers qualified vendors list at that speed.



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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2011, 08:45:11 PM »

And the voltage usually has to be tweaked on it as well.
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« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2011, 09:32:31 AM »

With an E8600 on an Asus P5Q board I upped the FSB so the RAM runs at its rated 1066, tweaked the voltage very slightly and now it all runs nicely at 4.27GHz.
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« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2011, 06:15:27 PM »

Understood now regarding the CPU guys - thanks!

The RAM! I think I have found what/where I need to change it to get my full speed.
Do I need to copy the numbers from the left into the right?
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