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« on: July 29, 2011, 08:59:53 AM »

Droid is acting up, 3 nights running now its had a full charge before going to bed (no i havent made a little bed for it) when i wake in the morning the battery is completely dead. Wifi is off, i have it set to only use 2g networks, its not syncing with anything.  Iv been wondering if its been something i downloaded as i was doanloading something the other day and it tried to download an app that i already had, it wasnt an update for the app it was like a fresh download. Yesterday i got warry of it so tried downloading an AV and malware scanner and the downloads kept pausing.

Checked task manager for weird things and havent found anything odd running, after getting the AV and malware scanner to download i did a scan with both and they found nothing.


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« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2011, 11:45:38 AM »

Maybe your signal is low and your phone is pinging the tower constantly? If you do want to monitor all apps, you can download Advanced Task Cleaner Pro. It gives you at a glance idea of how much memory and cpu usage each app is pulling. It also lets you batch kill apps and has a built in trigger for auto kill. Be aware that android is linux based(you probably do know), so many of the services rely on each other to keep the OS slim. That's the beauty of Linux. Instead of building an app and creating every part uniquely to perform the tasks as a whole, Android relies heavily on other services, so you can almost build an app like using lego's. Use pre existing services shaped to get the form you want, you are just left with a little extra coding. Anyways, back on topic. You may kill a service and it'll be asked to restart because another service needs that one to operate.
Try this and you'll see all the running services and can set up auto kill.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/advanced-task-cleaner-pro/com.bright.taskcleaner
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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2011, 12:34:12 PM »

thanks alot therm
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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2011, 03:54:55 PM »

To be honest not many apps available on the Android Market would be a dependency. Only thing I can think of is the SSH connector, and maybe a few of the other connectors. I needed to install the SSH connector to install ConnectBot.

Same sort of stuff exists in Windows with regards to libraries except it's less transparent that you can update the dependencies, and updating core ones is only done by MS in reality.

Android is very good at self managing it's memory, it spawns and kills what it needs rendering a task killer pretty useless.

I've not really noticed the difference between using and not using Task Killer in Android.

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I think of all Americanisms that's the one I hate the most lol, over here we play with our lego... or our lego bricks.
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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2011, 05:20:36 PM »

There are so many poorly written apps, it's a joke. Android does a very poor job of vetting them. As far as task management, that depends solely on what apps are running and what services they call for. Droid does well by itself, but if you have poorly written apps, it all goes to shit. Task manager is good as a diagnostic tool. It's either that or uninstall until the problem goes away. I'd rather have an educated guess. As far as dependencies go, try shutting down services that are not core and see how fast some come back. Once again, a clean install works well, but apps can end that shortly. I have had my nightmares.

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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2011, 05:45:33 PM »

And about your Americanisms. Who gives a shit how it's said? Really? It's just language.

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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2011, 07:46:23 PM »

Heres the full story. Didnt have time to to write it earlier.
I was downloading an mp4 clip, i went to open another clip while that was dl and it said could not be viewed, i then tried to dl said clip but instead it showed it dl a ladbrokes app which i had installed when i got the phone. I canceld the dl of the app, tried again and same happend so this time i let it dl and thought nothing of it until the following day when the battery unusually drained after my normal use. Thats when i tried dl the av and malware apps and got thewhole dl paused status which really made me poo my cacks. And since then the battery has been awful. Its strange that it died when it wasnt being used ie over night while i was sleeping. Again no wifi or 3g networks used and i also had background data turned off.
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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2011, 08:46:55 PM »

Advanced Task killer is what I'm using and find it to free up a lot of memory.

Many apps seem to start up on their own and it kills them easily. Evidenently when I play angry birds.


No task killer equals slow
Using task killer equals it's faster.


Anyhoo, Lego's and Lego is defo one of them things that sounds foreign to me too.

It sounds odd when I hear Lego's as opposed to just Lego,chill bro I don't think anyone was taking a dig  Wink
It's a reality to us that many of our words, phrases and cultural terms are being Americanised. God forbid we start calling Lego  "Lego's"  Wink 
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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2011, 10:08:28 PM »

Advanced Task killer is what I'm using and find it to free up a lot of memory.

Many apps seem to start up on their own and it kills them easily. Evidenently when I play angry birds.


No task killer equals slow
Using task killer equals it's faster.
Advanced task killer is the same as cleaner, just with less features. More purposed, you could say. I linked to that app because I was familiar with it.
Anyhoo, Lego's and Lego is defo one of them things that sounds foreign to me too.

It sounds odd when I hear Lego's as opposed to just Lego,chill bro I don't think anyone was taking a dig  Wink
It's a reality to us that many of our words, phrases and cultural terms are being Americanised. God forbid we start calling Lego  "Lego's"  Wink 
Who said anyone was taking a dig? I just responded to what Chris said. It's just language. Anyways, it's not like either country has a claim to "lego", and I think it's quite silly be offended or bothered by the way in which the word is used. Understand my thinking, you twinkle toes? tongue2
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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2011, 10:32:03 PM »

Call me 'twinkle cock' and we got a deal bro  Cool    Wink
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« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2011, 10:36:06 PM »

Twinkle cock! Want some fairy dust?

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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2011, 10:46:36 PM »

Back on topic, Hijpo. You should find out if it's an app causing it got sure and not something else. Check signal strength at bedtime and kill all tasks with killer/cleaner. Where are you setting your phone?  You may have an issue unrelated to your dl. Battery may be the issue. Also, you should know that droid battery meters are notorious for their inaccuracy.

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« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2011, 10:02:30 AM »

All info taken onboard, including tinkle cock. Thanks therm an keasey
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« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2011, 12:45:57 PM »

Haha! You said tinkle cock! Wink

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« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2011, 11:35:24 AM »

Hehehe... alas, the language differences between us here in Britland and our American cousins across the big pond are not limited to just lego's... or 'color - colour' and 'honor - honour'.

Buns.
You know what these are. You're probably sitting on them now. Over here buns are either bread or cake rolls. Asking for a couple of sticky buns in a bakery here will mean Mr. Crusty the baker will give you two cake buns with icing (frosting) on the top. If I went into a deli in Manhattan and asked for a couple of sticky buns I'd probably get arrested...

Pants.
You call pants what we call trousers; pants are the things that go underneath.

Muffler.
To us what you call a muffler is called a silencer. In the UK a muffler is a long scarf a la Dickensian Novels. A muffler was also a derogatory name for a certain part of the female anatomy at my school, though this was probably unique to us. Try explaining THAT to a upstanding American when you are standing at the petrol (gas) station in fits of laughter...

Football.
A classic example of our culture gap. To us football is what you call soccer. To you football is what we call pointless. You probably think the same way about cricket...

Baseball.
In England we play a game called 'Rounders' which has identical rules bar the bat being a short baton designed to be used with only one hand. It's only played in schools. In the US, it's a PROPER game...

Hood.
To our American cousins, the bit of a car that the engine sits under or place where you might live if you are a rapper. To us Brits, the part of a coat that is designed to cover your head when it rains. What you call the 'hood' we call the 'bonnet' on a car.

Aluminium.
Over here we say 'al-u-min-i-um'. You say 'aloom-i-num'. Neither nation can spell the word....(Aluminiumiumium?)

Jock.
In the US, big guys who like sport, women and acting macho. In the UK, a Scottish person who probably also likes sport, women and acting macho but in a Glaswegian (i.e. from Glasgow) accent. Which is probably more scary since a lot of people have difficultly understanding them... ---> ducks quickly to avoid a major slap from Wooster and Keasy smile

Autumn.
My favourite time of year when the leaves turn orange, red and yellow. You call it 'Fall'. I prefer Autumn.

Z.
The twenty sixth letter of the alphabet. You call it 'Zee'; we call it 'Zed'. A whole generation in England has had to relearn the alphabet after hearing the 'Alphabet song' on Sesame Street. Sadder still, the song doesn't rhyme with the English 'Zed'. At least the 'Numbers song' works (1-2-3-4-5, 6-7-8-9-10, 11-12, do do-do do-do do-do do etc etc...)

Tire.
When visiting the garage make sure you know the difference between a UK tire (band of metal placed around the rim of a wheel designed to strengthen it) and a US tire (pneumatic effort called a 'tyre' in the UK). If you make a mistake it could be a very long and bumpy ride home.

99.
In the US purely the number before one hundred. In the UK a yummy variety of ice cream consisting of a scoop of vanilla soft-scoop ice cream in wafer cone with a chocolate flake stuck in it. The cone is specially designed to allow the melting ice cream to flow all over your hand before you get to eat it.
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