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« on: January 06, 2012, 11:26:46 AM » |
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My 2005 Accord 2.2i-ctdi has developed a fault...which manifested itself at exactly the wrong time.  Pulled out overtake and got alongside the other car when the glow plug light started flashing and I lost power..  I got past it regardless, pulled over and switched it off hoping it would reset it from 'limp mode' and luckily it did. Anyhoo, I treated it gingerly for a few days since the dealers were all closed for the holidays but the problem was still there at high revs. Took it to the dealers who plugged in the diagnostic comp which showed a fuel pressure problem. They cleared the fault, tested it and it seems to be resolved (tbh my first thought was water in the fuel line)...but there was a caveat. The manifold is cracked (which is why I was smelling fumes in the cab) and it's a £900 fix...  But, and it's a big but (fnarr fnarr), it's a known issue with the 2004-2006 models and Honda usually replace them for free under an extended warranty, so I'm just waiting on word back.  -edit- Just found this online. The code will be p2?15 fuel rail pressure lower than expected, i did a couple yesterday and still can't remember it lol. Anyhow this seems to happen every winter and the usual link we've found is "I've just filled my car up at tescos etc. We normally do a fuel filter change and put in some additive in. But you might get away with an additive or filling it up if there isn't much in it (decent fuel like shell or bp). The only explanation we can think of is its the water in the fuel freezing or lack of additives!? Funnily enough I'd just filled the tank at Shell and wondered if they'd got water in the diesel tanks (there'd been some heavy rain the day before) and planned on running the tank empty, filling up somewhere else and seeing if the problem re-occurred. 
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« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2012, 12:03:59 PM » |
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Sounds quite unusual... I've never had a problem with Tesco fuel myself... though I've not used it in a while. I do feed it some of the 99 RON stuff every now and again though. Mines in for a service and MOT today. Had to change the battery as it ran out of juice after my holidays, then couldn't hold a charge after jumping it. Also fixed the off side wiper, it wasn't moving at all (been broken for ages, since March... never drive the car  ). Turns out when the Ice made it 'break', what happened was it undid the bolt on the servo. Tightened it up. I think that's about the only thing it was going to fail the MOT on (though I'll get an advisory on a small windscreen chip, but it's under a 5p coin size so it's actually fine)... possibly rear brakes but I thought I replaced them last service.
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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2012, 12:36:00 PM » |
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iirc the basic fuel is practically all the same stuff regardless of where you buy it. My brother works for Exxon down at the Fawley Refinery and he said all the tankers are filled from the same place (he also said it's the same at Grangemouth). The 'specialised' fuel the garages sell is a different matter though. The Shell V-Power diesel is excellent stuff...if you can bear the expense. I accidentally bought a full tank of it just before a run up to Inverness last year and I must have overtook at least sixty vehicles on the way there and back...sometimes five or six at a time (tbh I think I even managed a dozen in one go sitting behind a particularly slow moving lorry). The top speed and pick up using the stuff is phenomenal. 
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« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2012, 02:21:48 PM » |
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I remember being in your car in Glasgow Wooster and commenting that it was so quiet that I couldn't believe it was diesel! Good luck either way 
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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2012, 03:29:51 PM » |
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They called back, it's getting fixed for free. 
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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2012, 03:31:16 PM » |
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Pfff, I hope you payed for your spirograph! /grats mate 
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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2012, 03:33:33 PM » |
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They called back, it's getting fixed for free.  Result! I have no idea on engines (worse than that of a woman tbh). I can check the oil and fill up the wiper wash but thats about it. Shame on me, I know...
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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2012, 07:15:36 PM » |
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Putting wiper wash in the engine in the first mistake Tom!
They had to adjust my handbrake cable, Service and MOT... £300... Tax... £135 (Six Months).... New Battery (the other day), and tools to fit battery... £110. Cheap =[
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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2012, 07:42:23 PM » |
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Tools to fit battery? What did they do? Go out and buy a 13mm and an 8mm spanner for the job? Battery is about £50 and takes five minutes to fit, service is usually an oil change, new oil filter and air filter which'll set you back about £80 for the lot. Adjusting the handbrake is a wee bit more involved depending on the car, but there's usually access under the centre console behind the brake lever to the yoke and it's just a matter of tightening up a couple of 8mm nuts 30 mins to drain the oil, replace the filter and five mins to change the air filter, so all in you could have bought the gear yourself for around £130 and spent an ample hour and a half doing the job and saved the best part of £300 bucks.  oh, and that's buying decent oil like Castrol Magnatec...not the generic shit they buy by the barrel. 
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« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2012, 07:46:53 PM » |
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Tools to fit battery? What did they do? Go out and buy a 13mm and an 8mm spanner for the job? Battery is about £50 and takes five minutes to fit, service is usually an oil change, new oil filter and air filter which'll set you back about £80 for the lot. Adjusting the handbrake is a wee bit more involved depending on the car, but there's usually access under the centre console behind the brake lever to the yoke and it's just a matter of tightening up a couple of 8mm nuts 30 mins to drain the oil, replace the filter and five mins to change the air filter, so all in you could have bought the gear yourself for around £130 and spent an ample hour and a half doing the job and saved the best part of £300 bucks.  oh, and that's buying decent oil like Castrol Magnatec...not the generic shit they buy by the barrel.  What he said 
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« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2012, 07:54:52 PM » |
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Tools to fit battery? What did they do? Go out and buy a 13mm and an 8mm spanner for the job? Battery is about £50 and takes five minutes to fit, service is usually an oil change, new oil filter and air filter which'll set you back about £80 for the lot. Adjusting the handbrake is a wee bit more involved depending on the car, but there's usually access under the centre console behind the brake lever to the yoke and it's just a matter of tightening up a couple of 8mm nuts 30 mins to drain the oil, replace the filter and five mins to change the air filter, so all in you could have bought the gear yourself for around £130 and spent an ample hour and a half doing the job and saved the best part of £300 bucks.  oh, and that's buying decent oil like Castrol Magnatec...not the generic shit they buy by the barrel.  Doing it yourself doesn't get your log stamped. That is of big importance for some folks.
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« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2012, 08:16:06 PM » |
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It doesn't stop you performing basic maintenance yourself though. As part of the service schedule they'll 'check' various stuff depending on the mileage, so if you've changed stuff like the oil, the oil filter and the air filter yourself it shouldn't stop you getting a stamp in your book if they are in good condition..and they shouldn't be looking to replace them for the hell of it, saving yourself a pile of cash.
Take a daft scenario like one of your kids getting under the car and undoing the sump plug, or a more realistic scenario like you living in Iceland and the air/pollen filters being clogged by a spewing volcano. If you replaced any of them, the xxxxx miles service check should show that they're in good condition and don't require replacing, so it passes the check and you get the book stamped, saving you the inflated parts and labour costs.
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« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2012, 08:20:53 PM » |
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Tools to fit battery? What did they do? Go out and buy a 13mm and an 8mm spanner for the job? Battery is about £50 and takes five minutes to fit, service is usually an oil change, new oil filter and air filter which'll set you back about £80 for the lot. Adjusting the handbrake is a wee bit more involved depending on the car, but there's usually access under the centre console behind the brake lever to the yoke and it's just a matter of tightening up a couple of 8mm nuts 30 mins to drain the oil, replace the filter and five mins to change the air filter, so all in you could have bought the gear yourself for around £130 and spent an ample hour and a half doing the job and saved the best part of £300 bucks.  oh, and that's buying decent oil like Castrol Magnatec...not the generic shit they buy by the barrel.  I bought and did the battery myself. I didn't actually have any tools here, so I bought a small set and lobbed it in my car... lives with the jump cables. Cheapest battery for my car, even from Halfrauds, was £78 =[ Needed it sharpish, could have got one for closer to £50 on the Internets. MOT was £55, £106 for an hour labour for the Hand Brake, and Service. £62 on oil (Shell Helix, apparently), rest on filters and VAT. Hand brake is a bit of an arse to get to on my car... only thing I really feel a bit ripped off on is oil but I didn't have enough time to really go and get it myself. Normally I just provide them with 4L. To be honest, when I was replacing the battery I did myself a little mini MOT anyway, did alot of checks they do.. checked shocks, lights, tyres, brakes... to be honest I thought the handbrake cable was a little bit lose but thought it might get away with it.
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« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2012, 08:21:10 PM » |
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They called back, it's getting fixed for free.  There we had it down as a simple fuel filter change the other day as well, so much for that guess. Bonus on it getting done for nowt though. That will save having another white van man on the roads.
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« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2012, 08:30:10 PM » |
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I forgot how much I hated driving a van...I feel like a tink.  I still think there's been water gone through the system and now that it's a bit milder the problem has gone. (looking into it, it appears that you can have a small amount of water that freezes in the tank or the fuel lines, causing a temporary blockage...and the log showed a drop in fuel pressure at the front end) I'll run the tank dry and fill up somewhere else I think. ...might even treat it to a full tank of V-Power for the hell of it. 
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